ryan and going outside with his daughter, that's great. he loves his daughter and wants to have fun with her. but i don't think that's the issue in terms of election and whether or not that's going to make or break their campaign. it really isn't. >> and those of us who are for gun control -- these are children being taught how to use a gun and these are children who come from hunting families. it's different from the kind of gun control people like me who live in big cities see. and i don't want to get like the tea party, if anything i'm against it. if you're from a hunting family, if boys would be taught and these pictures are of girls being taught. >> but let me just say again, pun intended, hunting is a dying sport in this country. as we urbanize. the data show fewer and fewer -- first of all there are fewer places to hunt because they are all getting developed and certainly -- remembery you have to drive hours of stees get to places that are remote enough -- my point is, will this be a motivator for more moms or turn offs to more moms